Pakistanis especially Pakhtuns and other northern people are generally speaking fairer than Indians.
Something pretty much non existent in Indians. I think as time goes on the differences will increase between the two. Grimald said:. May 5, Iraq. I think the main difference is that Pakistan was created to be a Muslim state apart from India, even though there are lots of Muslims in India Pakistan is specifically Muslim even if the role Islam is supposed to play in Pakistan is debatable. I found the pictures of people to be pretty strange, I don't know how representative any of them are of what is typical in India or Pakistan and how anyone would know which country they're from unless someone told them, apart from the nurses maybe.
Jun 1, chandigarh. Shaheen said:. Punjabis are the same whether Hindu, Muslim or Sikh. As for Muslims being recruited from lower castes i can say that in Pakistan that is not true.
Those of my tribe the Kamboj who were Hindu belonged to the warrior caste "kshatriyas". A large section of Pakistani Punjabis are made up of Jatts and Rajputs. Two upper caste tribes. I do not know how the situation is in North India. I think the very fact that the Indus region became majority Muslim shows how it did have a seperate identity from that of the Gangetic plains. Before Islam a large section of the population of this region was Buddhist.
I do not have any statistics but one thing that is certain is that Hinduism did not have a strong hold on the Indus plains as it did in the plains of the Ganges. It was adopted as the national language due to its historic prestige as the language of the Mughals and because no ethnic group could then say that their language had not been picked as the national language. Naomasa Forum Staff. Apr 42, T'Republic of Yorkshire. The pictures used for comparison are, shall we say, "selective" at best.
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Top Bottom. What is the difference between the Renaissance and humanism? Oct 3, May 15, I immediately responded,"Paji, mai punjab ton, te tusi? Paji, mai v Punjab ton hi han" Oh wow! I am also from Punjab. We shook hands, gave each other small friendly hug and suddenly an awesome discussion started. Only to realise a bit later that he was from the Pakistan part of Punjab and as I was from the Indian part of Punjab - there was an awkward silence!
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Rahul Dravid officially appointed as new Team India head coach. Why are we saying such negative about each other we are all human beings we all have our different beliefs why are you judging that?
Rahul Islam is the most peaceful religion in the world. The terrorists of pak and afghanistan are just killing because they want to get rid of america and nothing else. Once this america gets out of afghanistan there would be peace in all pak. And you should know that meaning of Islam is Peace. Pak has very good relations with all muslim countries and India does not has such relations with them and how can the muslims in India say that they are living good there and what about Babari mosque?
The holy places are not secure there then how can you say that muslims are save there. You only know about pak that they are terrorists. Have you ever listened and Temple destroyed in Pak.
And when talk about muslims we ruled over the whole sub-continent for about years. Pakistan is now fighting against its terrorism,but actually the country is full of terrorists,best examples is bin laden is killed from a house which is about few kms from PMA,it gives stong sign that pakistan protecting terrorists,may be this attitude will become the reason to the end of pakistan,wait and see! Try to help them by helping there future. TINGS are far unrevealed than the shitt we are discussing! ALL wanna say is..
Virtually every person who has commented on this Topic is Illiterate or plain dumb, as your Command of the English language is piss poor. India became a Nuclear state in and who gives a shit when Pakistan became one! Pakistan has no friends around the world as the disaster fund for the Earthquake received almost 0 contribuitions from the world as they see pakistan as a Terrorist state that is on the verge of Civil War.
S and think the Chinks are their friends and dont realise they are being manipulated by the Chinese as they are fearful of Indias potential to be a Superpower. Ask the World what they think of Pakistan and its people and the vast majority hate them. I hope 1day the USA does us all a favour and wipes them of the face of the earth as they threatened to do during the Afghan war. WTF are you on about? Dont forget war is a international affair and many wealthy countries have a vested interest to protect India.
What does shitty Arid landed Pakistan have? My ass. They would stab you without a second thought, you are a Kaffer in their eyes. I was born and raised in the U. Religion is just a way of controlling the masses the world over do your research and stop following blindly B. Untill India drops some of its B.
Stilll, common sense has never been the strong point of my countrymen. Facts and common sense fly over their heads. They conveniently forget or ignore uncomfortable truths. It is then always necessary to repeat them. That is the true indication of which is the more civilised. The majority population of India Hindu are by nature very right wing and nationalistic. So lets list the differences between the nations : 1 a International Human Rights are given free reign in Pakistan.
Pakistan lets them into the country…. Lets them move about freely and report on anything they want, no matter how negative the findings are for Pakistan. International Human rights organisations had no choice but to sneak operatives in at great risk to their lives , into both Punjab and Kashmir.
Against Muslims in Gujarat and Bombay……against Sikhs in Delhi…and the massacre and rapes of a few thousands Christians in orissa for example. In in Delhi, in just one night, 10, Sikh men, women and tiny babies were murdered by mobs of Indians which included the police and politicians. To date, not one person has been arrested, charged and imprisoned for those murders and rapes.
As such, the Laws of the land have always recognised the religious needs of the Sikhs. As such, for example, every Sikh that has got married in India since the British left, have had no choice if they want or need a Marriage Certificate to sign a piece of paper stating that they are Hindu and have had a Hindu marriage.
Now tell me…. How many of the Indian nationalists here would be happy if they had to experience the life of a minority? Whenever one wishes to know the difference between one nation and another, one should never rely too heavily on the views of the majority populations.
Their judgements are inherently clouded by a false sense of patriotism. You find out how truly civilised or uncivilised a nation is by looking at how it treats its minorities. As a minority of India let me state quite clearly the fact that India is not just uncivilised, it is barbaric, cruel, without conscience and without shame.
Ha HA HA…. Ha HA HA….. Advice: Learn history then comment. After that how many hindus can reside peacefully in your country just see over our country there are lots of muslim brothers can spend their life peacefully here, name a president who was a hindu, name a sportsman who is hindu in your country but you idiots come and look in INDIA there are atleast 1 muslim designated to each and every field.
You all are bustards who always try to poke us, disgusting mindset of you guys. Jis tarah ram ji lanka ka gand mara tha. Bilkul usi tarah in madarchod gutter ki paidaish ki gand maarenge. Aane wale waqt main jab India ka prime minister Narendra Modi or President Bal thackray yaa Raj Thackray hoga tab hum sab milke in Paki madarchod ka gand maarenge.
Yeh Congress sarkar hijre ki aulad … Gandhi ke samay bhi hijra thi aur aaj bhi hai. Hum bhagat singh, Udham Singh aur Netaji Subhash chandra Bose ki tarah sochenge toh hum in paki ki ghar main iodex lagakar aur dhoop main nangaa karke maar sakte hai. America had killed Osama bin laden very softly and kind heartedly as if laden were there brother.
If laden madarchod had given to me I would have made a huge a big utensil in which I would have boiled oil in it, then would have thrown that bastard in that showing all the madarchods as an example. Have better days the good and pure folks over here and have some right thoughts otherwise have even worse days, those who have polluted voices,contaminated words and stagnant thoughts.
I am not addressing the person,showing the globe the teachings of his parents ,the culture of his state and the norms of his religion. Subhan dear you were right,but i think the persons like him, who are even unable to recognize the difference between what is good and what is not.
I think they are just the hell trying to settle there frustration. If all already rule over the universe then what is the fight for? You seem to me a totally mentally retorted guy. You are having now reasonable views. So better you keep silent. Are you mad? Pakistani army is 4 times smaller than the indian army and pak conquered india s more than sq. How can you expect more better to a 4 times small army and with less weapons. And do you know who stopped the war it was your Prime Minister at that time who went to the UNO to stop the war.
Dear Sander van der Vliet, Wow mr. I think you havent ever touch the history. Go lil kid have sweet dreams. Bajrang Dal u stupid pehle tameez se bat krna seekho phir campare krna aur tum indians ki itni oukat nhi hai k tum hun pakistanis ko maro so u better bahave urself Mr……. Why u guys r fighting lyk members of parliameny. Last four war against us they only got ass kick frm us but nothing. Evey tym they go for war they vl get same result.
In Kargil war they seng Mujahiddin instead of Army……. After the war they reffuse to eccept bodies of their own Army, their bodies bein burried in our land. And Nothing. So, before getting into debait.. Get knowledge. Please man before comingin war have a clean shaving. Jai Hind………………….! Sare jahan se acha hindostan humara………………..! India Kashmir is intergal part of india is most peaceful country in the world. India is most friendly country in the world. India is a very beautyful country.
India is also known as the hindustan. Do you agree guys…………………! If it is not mandatory.. Is it? No economy stength army with old rifiles …….. Think twice,pakistan is a cancer of world,the terrorist factory,and never make foolish comments,i got too many muslim friends and i respect all religions,because our country teaches us to respect all religion,but you guys are muslim extremists,thats makes muslim terrorism,First all try to respect all religion not to copare them,we are all humans.
It is worth pondering why did the native Indians tolerate the Mughals and their predecessor muslim rulers. It turns out that they were real leaders and dispensed true justice which made them favorites. Robert Clive who resorted to unethical impurities of exploitation of divide and rule thus made a brother an enemy of his own brother.
The issue gained momentum after partition when initially politicians and later intelligence agencies of both the nations raced to create a justification of separation. The Samba Spy scandal is the true manifestation of what the Intelligence is capable to do and vilify the innocent.
I in no way profess a reunification but profess that we should bury the hatchet respect each others sovereignty and work together for the betterment of our people absolutely independent of foreign influence. Look at the Mumbai carnage , no Pakistani of sane mind would ever think of such an unresponsive action since the obvious consequences were of no benefit to Pakistan.
Rather the consequences were utterly damaging for Pakistan. So who could these Non State actors be? There is only one answer to this, both India and Pakistan should absolutely shun fingering each other, be it in Afghaistan or Assam. We should develop mutual confidence to openly discuss issues instead of making the world interfere and manipulate our relations for their sinister geoploitical interests. Kashmir does not belong to either India or Pakistan it belongs to the local people of Kashmir.
I implore to the Indians and Pakistanis alike to think out of the box and make a new begining of living like friends instead of being hell bent on destroying each other with foreign exchange spent on purchase of expensive weapons, and butchering our soldiers.
Alternatively we should send our politicians to fight on the borders because this way we both shal get rid of our common problem. I have read the abusive comments of Bajrang Dal and would like top comment that only the abused people resort to abuses.
Sorry for the bad language but Gaand wohe marna chaata hai jis ki baji hoti hai Please stop fanning hatered because in india you have more than Million muslims and if you alienate them you will further divide yourself. Look at the Bangla Desh experiment, why do they hate you after all what you did for them? Long live India and Pakistan. There so many other countries that are alike and same context but People try to cope with it.
Otherwise Indian are well known for their love of Peace, Pakistanis are Muslim so the love of human is the essence and the core Value of Islam religion…so come on join Kaisier Hameed Khan at least his reflexion The Western Countries are aware by what can divide the Third World even the BRICS and they let the game playing cause it is running for their own goals.
Nowadays, no Country can Claim nor declare that she is secure and safe economic, military, social… the countdown has commenced so be aware about what we could loose… nothing last forever. You are grossly exaggerating, if this is indeed the case why are minorities declining in Pakistan and minoroties flourishing in India?. Even Indian muslsim agree that they have the most religious freedom, since only in india all muslims, shia,sunni,ahamedia,sufi can freely follow their religion unlike other islamic states.
The Sikh riots and godhra train torching and retaliatory hindu riots were true but they have been contained, no minority leader is killed in india. Pakistans only minority assembly member the christian Shanbaz was killed because he supported Asia Bibi.
In contrast India has large minority political body many national leaders of repute, artists,public servants, scientists,presidents from muslims even more from christian community. Wake up my fellow, India is simply secular, and Pak is islamic fundamentalist. Yeah we know pornistan is the shithole of the world ans has been called the international migraine.
I remember a incident a decade or so ago. Forget what happened in East Pakistan, that time Pakistan were not united as a nation or military so Pakistan enimies took advantage. Again go and get your proper knowledge before talking bazaari language! Finally before you start your crap, India did not win that war, ever been Lahore and Sailkot? If not! My grandfather came from india and he was a muslim.
Why millions of people converted to Islam in India because it is the most peaceful religion of all times. And if you want to succeed in your present life and the life after death you must follow the sayings of Islam. After partition, India had Even Christians are not spared, recently a popular Pakistani secular governor Salman Taseer and Shahbaz Bhatti the only minority member of national legislature, were killed because they supported a poor pakistani christian lady Aasia Bibi who was accused of Blasphemy and sentenced to death.
India encourages all religions, India has a growing muslim population because india allows the practice of all kinds of islam, much unlike any islamic country all groups of muslims like shias, sunnies,ahamedias all of them can pursue their religion freely in India.
And what about us Sikhs? I get the impression India places such a low value on the life of minorities that, like stepping on ants, it brushes aside the death and suffering of minorities as irrelevent. India officially refuses to even acknowledge that Sikhism exists as a religion in its own right. Can there be a greater insult than this? The answer to that, of course, is yes.
There can. Amnesty International, and other international human rights organisations, estimate that the total number of Sikhs killed by India is in the region of a quarter of a million. Remember one thing my brother. On the Pakistan side of the border they let independent international human rights organisations in, they let them move freely, and they let them report to the world whatever they find freely.
On our Indian side of the border, our country has consistently refused to allow any human rights organisation in. Trust me my friend, we are in no position to lecture anybody in the world about human rights and treatment of minorities.
He who lives in glass houses….. I am a Sikh. A doaba jatt Sikh. What you have said in your message is indicative of the life of a minority in India. As long as we minorities keep patting you on the back and telling you how lovely you are you promise only to go on intermittent massacre sprees against us.
Worse, because not only do slaves not often get killed en masse but they do at least have the freedom to speak their mind without fear. India, has for the last 25 years refused to allow any of these human rights organisations in. They, Human Rights Watch, and other independent groups, estimate that up to a quarter of a million Sikhs were killed by India in rural Punjab during those years.
Dear Paki friend hiding in England,Stop embarrassing yourself, what ever made you say that a quarter million people were killed in India. India : Minorities grow faster than Majority, Sikhs and Hindus and for the most part of urban India Christian and few Muslim communities are integrated. There is huge urban rural divide, there are sectarian problems throughout the country, which needs to be addressed.
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